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The Christian Religion And The American Constitution

THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND THE CONSTITUTION If my church attempted to influence me in a way which was improper or which affected adversely my responsibilities as a public servant sworn to uphold the...

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It is more a separation of powers than it is a separation of church and state.. Meaning the state should have no power over what the church believes (as was the case in England) or does and vise versa.

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What's your take on the Madison quote though? Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any...

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RichWh1 wrote:It is more a separation of powers than it is a separation of church and state.. Meaning the state should have no power over what the church believes (as was the case in England) or does...

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It suggests to me the founding fathers were thinking along the lines of "Well we think the world would be better off without religion but we'll give them their own space"... So it strikes me as odd...

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Here RichWh1, are you aware of the TV Series "The Newsroom"? I'm watching it now and the episode seems to be about this very topic, religion and the constitution, and here are the 3 quotes that this...

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Omega Green wrote:Here RichWh1, are you aware of the TV Series "The Newsroom"?No I am not familiar with that TV series.   Those are three good quotes and need to be quoted as the authors intended....

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Well wouldn't merely the course of socialization in your country beg to differ with that? Civil liberties, they aren't subordinate to the attestations of religious institutions, thus it may be said...

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RichWh1 wrote:Gonzo wrote:If the church has no power over what the state does or believes (and vice versa), then how is that not a separation of church and state? It is a separation of powers since...

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What is the power (or powers) you believe the church has over the state RichWh1?

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First of all do you know where the phrase 'separation of church and state' came from?  It was from a letter to the Danbury Baptist Church written by T Jefferson.  "The phrase "Separation of Church and...

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and so then what of the two above quotes from the Newsroom? they seem to strongly suggest that the church was/is to have no authoritative word on civil liberties.

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RichWh1 do you know what John Adams wrote in a letter to some baptist southerners 4 weeks after the treaty of Tripoli?We aim to make this a safe environment for all our members. Honest discussion of...

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So while "separation of church and state" is not officially the way this concept is stated in the US Constitution, it is a clear summary of the way in which the concept actually does get treated...

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Gonzo wrote:I'll admit that your churches do not have the right to, for instance, impeach your president for heresy, or stone your Congress to death for being disrespectful of their elders. So that...

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How about that deconversion thread Rich? it misses you!

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